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Maine Teen Pregnancy Rates Continue To Decline

Maine Teen Pregnancy Rates Continue To Decline

Maine's teen pregnancy rates continue to decline. A preliminary report from the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention shows pregnancy rates among girls ages 15 to 19 fell from 35 per thousand in 2003 to 34.8 per thousand in 2004.

In 1996, the teen pregnancy rate was 45.5 pregnancies per thousand.

Officials say while those numbers show only a slight decrease, the result of the continuing decline is that that 163 fewer Maine girls became pregnant between 2001 and 2004.

Franklin County had the lowest teen pregnancy in 2004, while Knox County had the highest.

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What was it before we abandoned the idea of abstinance and began having our kids put condoms on cucumbers in school?
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Teens getting knocked up has always been a common occurence. Cucumbers or not.

In any case, less unwanted pregnancies is always welcome news. No?

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Teens getting knocked up has always been a common occurence. Cucumbers or not.




It used to be perfectly normal to be married when you were still a teen, so yes it was fairly common. Being born a bastard was not common though. The fact is that before the brain-damaging sixties taught us free love and condoms-on-cucumbers the rate of babies born bastards was much lower. I don't use that term to show disrespect toward the offspring of one night stands - I use it to show disrespect for their parents.

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In any case, less unwanted pregnancies is always welcome news. No?


Who said anything about unwanted, it just says teen pregnancies.

I think quite a few "unwanted pregnancies" get slaughtered before they're ever counted.
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Teens covering up their irresponsibility and 5 minutes of indiscretion by marrying someone (for life) that they likely barely know anything about is the right solution? Nope, that is formula for heartache and divorce. It's not a favor to the child.

These kids should either learn how reproduction works and take steps to avoid it, or avoid sex altogether. But as they say, kids will be kids.

It doesn't say unwanted, but how many high school age kids out there have you heard of that are actively trying to get pregnant? Never heard of that? Me neither.

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Teens covering up their irresponsibility and 5 minutes of indiscretion by marrying someone (for life) that they likely barely know anything about is the right solution? Nope, that is formula for heartache and divorce.


If marrying someone you barely know allows you to cooperate with that person to a greater degree in fulfilling your duties as Mother/Father, I'd say that is taking responsibility. If you marry "for life," divorce would not be an issue.

Like I said, many people used to be married at a young age w/o pregnancy being an artificial incentive and its not accurate to portray all such early marriages/births or even very many of them in that way.

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It's not a favor to the child.


Much too general of a statement. In many cases it's a wonderful favor to the child and a perfectly noble sacrafice to make. Today the great favor we do many of these babies is to slaughter them before they see their first sunrise.

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It doesn't say unwanted, but how many high school age kids out there have you heard of that are actively trying to get pregnant? Never heard of that? Me neither.


I've heard of it plenty, mostly girls with very little imagination about their future, "forget" their pill etc. and there you are.
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If marrying someone you barely know allows you to cooperate with that person to a greater degree in fulfilling your duties as Mother/Father, I'd say that is taking responsibility. If you marry "for life," divorce would not be an issue.


"Taking responsibility" is not putting ones self in such a situation in the first place.

A teenager can't comprehend the idea of "for life" at such a young age. There may have been a time when this was the case, but not today. 18 is technically an adult in this country, though 18 year olds that act like adults are a rare breed. Teenage marriages are statisticallay proven to end in divorce at a higher rate than non-teens. It's not a panacea.


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Like I said, many people used to be married at a young age w/o pregnancy being an artificial incentive and its not accurate to portray all such early marriages/births or even very many of them in that way.



Many, many decades ago, sure. Teens today just aren't ready for marriage. Too immature for the most part.


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Much too general of a statement. In many cases it's a wonderful favor to the child and a perfectly noble sacrafice to make. Today the great favor we do many of these babies is to slaughter them before they see their first sunrise.


Miserable parents make miserable kids. As far as abortion goes, well that falls under being responsible. Not putting ones self into that situation in the first place.

Less teen pregnancy = less abortion and less kids raising kids. It's less burden on society. It's win win.


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I've heard of it plenty, mostly girls with very little imagination about their future, "forget" their pill etc. and there you are.


Sure it happens, but the overwhelming majority of teen pregnancies are unintended. No denying that.
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"Taking responsibility" is not putting ones self in such a situation in the first place.


Well yeah, but if you make a mistake your responsibility is to raise that child in a cooperative way with the other parent and often times marriage (imagine that) and/or at least cohabitation is the best way to raise a child in a cooperative way with the other parent. spin

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Miserable parents make miserable kids.


Absent parents also make miserable kids. Parents that leave the other parent because <sniffle> he just isn't my soul mate <sniffle> and if I'm not happy my baby can't possibly be happy <yeah thats the ticket, sniffle, sniffle>... make miserable kids.
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But isn't cohabitation without marriage sinful? Isn't the kid still a little bastard? Smile

Anyone that goes into marriage thinking it's going to be romantic hollywood fluff 24/7 is clearly delusional, agreed (like say, a naive teenager?)

Though being able to tolerate your partner should be a minimum requirement for staying married. Shouldn't it? Staying married solely "for the kids" sounds good in theory, but doesn't necessarily work that way in practice. Is a single parent household worse than a household with feuding parents?

We agree on what is "ideal". But this isn't an ideal world. Gotta be realistic. Teenage pregnancy and marriage aren't a good thing. Not in this country. Not in this age.

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But isn't cohabitation without marriage sinful? Isn't the kid still a little bastard? Smile


Are you mistaking me for a Christian? Marriage is a very good way to commit to that cooperative parental relationship, but if parents are committed for the long run to living together etc. in the same type of relationship in order to raise kids in a responsible manner and provide a Mother and Father in the home, I don't have a huge problem with that.

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Is a single parent household worse than a household with feuding parents?


Far too general a question. Parents can certainly "fued" w/o it having a dramatic impact on the kids (most can't stand each other at one time or another - that is not a good reason to subject your kids to a broken home). Today our society promotes "personal fulfillment" more than "fulfillment of parental obligation."

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We agree on what is "ideal". But this isn't an ideal world. Gotta be realistic. Teenage pregnancy and marriage aren't a good thing. Not in this country. Not in this age.


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Pre-1960's it was very common that a pregnant girl, went to visit a cousin. In the last month of her pregnancy, her mother would go to 'visit'. And when the child was born, everyone returned home again saying that the child was yet one more of the mother's children. The sibling of the girl.

So any statistics on un-wed mothers and teen pregnancies; would be less reliable.

It is my understanding that during my grandparents day [all four of my grandparents were each among 13 or more siblings]; Only about two thirds of those siblings were actually born from the family's mother and the rest from young girl mistakes. But the families had a greater sense of responsibility, and would never left those babies be born 'bastards'.

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Teen Pregnancy

I'm not sure the schools are teaching abstinence. My eldest daughter complained almost daily of the students having sex in the corridors, the cafeteria, etc.
I found it interesting the following year that the rules changed. There could only be hand holding, etc. The reason for the new rules?

It was okay for the students to do indecent behavior because "it was a freedom of expression". UNTIL another student(s) complain. It then becomes indecent behavior.

Thus, parents complaining doesn't count... staff complaining, doesn't count... students complaining? That works.

A student expressing her thoughts on the subject daily, indicating that she did not come to school to watch porno flicks. Along with other complaints does work. Smile

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Condoms

On the subject of condoms.... Can you tell me what message they are sending to our children with FLAVORED CONDOMS???

Fighting teen pregnancy? Or giving them a different way to avoid getting pregnant?

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Haven't you heard? The younger generation doesn't consider oral sex, sex. Smile
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Haven't you heard? The younger generation doesn't consider oral sex, sex. Smile


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