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Campaign for Maine’s jobs, industry and economics


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xjdigger
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Campaign for Maine’s jobs, industry and economics

Maine has been under attack by socialist liberals and the Nature Convergency Group. There is an orchestrated movement to kill our industries and run them out of business, so they can re-wild northern Maine. Maine is an important issue to all of us, but these groups are operating through out the United States with a huge budget, and a very organized agenda.

The Socialist Liberals have taken over the Democrat party in the 60's, in which people like Ronald Reagan have left that party. Today the liberals want to change their identification to progressive because it sounds better. It is necessary to know the progressive society is described in Karl Marx’s Manifesto.

The liberals have been invading the Republican party by joining weak caucuses, and creating RINO’s to promote the liberal agenda. Here in Maine the liberals and the nature conservancy are the same people with the same agenda. Olympia Snow and Susan Collins are RINO’s (Republican in Name Only) and influence our caucuses with their agenda. Baldacci’s cabinet and staff have numerous people who belong to the Nature Conservancy. This is not just a conspiracy theory, there is a well documented history of this and the progression of lost industry that follows. Angus King has a history in his career working for the Nature Conservancy, they supported and funded his campaign for the Governor of Maine. He opened many doors for this organization to get a bigger foot hold in Maine.

Most people agree that we need to be good stewards to our lands and environment. But these liberals are pushing regulations that go too far by using false science such as global warming, (remember the false ozone issue years ago). The most current attack is the environmental emission control mandates on our truckers that increase the cost of all trucks by $10,000.00, that is supported by Baldacci. These regulations added to the numerous other regulations are putting costs on our industries that drive them out of business. The history on the progression of these attacks on industry have driven out industry, losing our jobs and increasing our taxation. People are leaving Maine because they cannot find work or life has become to expensive here.

We are currently getting organized to fight back these liberals, and kick them out of the state’s political control. A few people cannot do it alone, and it is hard to get the message out to the people because the media is owned and operated by organized liberal groups. The Bangor Daily News is owned by a board member of the nature Conservancy. I don’t know exactly where we are going but it may be as primitive as knocking on doors.

It is necessary for the citizenry to get active in focusing on and attack Maine’s problems. If there can be a successful campaign to restore Maine to economic health. This will solve a lot of problems for the individual towns taxation environment.

Currently I want to figure out how to get people informed on the problems that faces Maine’s politics. I want to promote a conservative republican party. I would like to see the conservative independents join in and remove the liberal leadership that has taken over the weak caucuses. I would like to attract the conservative democrats who will realize that they do not want to support a socialist agenda. Then I want to promote conservative representation to reorganize the rules and regulations that our industry needs to operate by.

Let all of us who are interested and have the energy to fight for our economic freedom in Maine, hold this kind of dialog and figure out how to take back our Maine from the socialist liberals who are winning their grand design against our will.

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Post Wed 01 Mar, 2006 10:30 am 
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xjdigger:

Since you are giving speeches about who isn't doing their jobs in Maine, what do you propose as an alternative to these policies of RINOs and liberals?

Who do you think can change things in Augusta? What candidate represents your point of view?

Didn't you start a thread about the governor ruining your friends business? scratch Oh thats right, you couldn't convince anyone in that thread that you knew what you were talking about. Wink

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Post Wed 01 Mar, 2006 11:09 am 
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-->what do you propose as an alternative to these policies of RINOs and liberals? <--
The RINOs are those liberals who have invaded the republican party to advance the liberal agenda. The alternative is to beat back the false science rules and regulations on industry. So the industries can be able to operate at a profit to be able to provide more jobs in Maine.
With more industry and jobs this will reduce the tax rates to the citizens.
With more industry and jobs this will reduce the welfare burden of the state.

-->Who do you think can change things in Augusta?<--
The Right wing of the republican Party can do this job.
The Right wing of the republican Party will reduce the size of the government and its budget.
The Right wing of the republican Party will be correcting the problems in the schools administrations.
The Right wing of the republican Party will turn back the rules and regulations on health insurance to make it more affordable to the public and industry
The Right wing of the republican Party will reduce your taxes.

--> Since you are giving speeches about who isn't doing their jobs in Maine<--
This is not the subject of my post

-->Didn't you start a thread about the governor ruining your friends business?<--
Could you kindly describe such a thread. I do not recall discussing the subject.

Do not look to the liberal agenda for all of your facts, there are to many lies to follow. To understand what the facts are read the many points of view about various subjects. Understand who the authors are and what they may have for an agenda. Read and listen to the full subject then draw your opinion, and always keep checking your beliefs to what the facts are. We all can believe in wrong or un-factual information, it takes due diligence to keep checking our beliefs with the what the facts are. Only a fool will keep expounding their beliefs and opinion about things that are proven to be false.

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Post Wed 01 Mar, 2006 11:50 am 
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People that ask digger to explain his thinking get whacked with 2x4's....be careful Smile

I'm actually inclined to agree with some of what he says....I just don't buy the "getting rid of liberals fixes everything" argument. It's not that simple. Nothing is.

Enviornmental responsibility isn't a partisan issue. Emmission standards are the responsible thing to work toward, regardless if you're a democrat, republican or if you believe in global warming or not. Ideally, it should be done in a manner that doesn't put people out of work. I don't think anyone here is after that.

There are many solutions that could be devised to help businesses out during their transitory periods. Certainly there can be a middle ground. Can't there?

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" Only a fool will keep expounding their beliefs and opinion about things that are proven to be false"

There are words of wisdom you might try practicing.

I did read the links you provided, and came to the conclusion they were inaccuratly putting a conservative spin into their findings. They were biased web sites.

"Most people agree that we need to be good stewards to our lands and environment. But these liberals are pushing regulations that go too far by using false science such as global warming, (remember the false ozone issue years ago). The most current attack is the environmental emission control mandates on our truckers that increase the cost of all trucks by $10,000.00, that is supported by Baldacci."

You don't recall making those statement before? Remember the enviornment thread?

A thread is something your views , like the Bush Whitehouse view on the environment, is hanging by. Wink

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The Right wing of the republican Party will reduce the size of the government and its budget.



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The Right wing of the republican Party will reduce your taxes.


This sounds good, but based on the federal Republican model - which is increasing the size of government at record rates with spending way out of control, I have my doubts. The GOP is becoming the champion for big government. Collins and Snowe may indeed be RINOs, though they are simply going with the flow. That is the trend in Washington. The Republican party is indeed losing it's identity and it's happening from the top down.

Can Maine find someone actually willing to walk the line and stand up for Republican ideals? I seriously have my doubts.
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I only have time for a quick comment here and I have to fly.

Wandera -> There are sensible things we can do to be good stewards to our economy. Banning the use of the environment and eliminating the industry is not one of them. We need jobs and industry to survive, and that is what I am fighting for.

tumbleweed-> I do not understand what your point is, Maybe wanderer can help you understand something. Also You may have me confused with someone elses writing. Please post the title of the thread you are trying to discuss. I am not faultless with everything I write because I sometimes will respond quickly with something as part of a discussion. I always check my data, and make corrections when a fault is discovered. I am not like a liberal to continuely repeating lies and false truths.

Wandera -> The federal Government has many RINO’s in it also. It is a liberal tactic to invade the party to advance their agenda against our will. Remember that the liberals are not promoting American Freedom, but Socialist control. Do you understand that the liberals want to be called progressive now. What have I written about the progressive society?

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Post Wed 01 Mar, 2006 3:36 pm 
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Have a nice flight. I think you left a long time ago. scratch

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There are sensible things we can do to be good stewards to our economy. Banning the use of the environment and eliminating the industry is not one of them. We need jobs and industry to survive, and that is what I am fighting for.


So you don't believe in compromise? Any? The issue should be dropped completely...forever?

In the past, corporations used to to pump whatever they wanted to into the atmosphere. They dumped their toxic wastes into the rivers. They exposed their workers to agents that made them ill. Part of this came from ignorance. Part of it came from irresponsibility and the desire to make a quick buck. These sort of things are regulated today, and rightly so, wouldn't you say?

Emissions that come from our vehicles are toxic. There's no disputing it. It's pollution. It has a cumulative effect on the environment even if it is being doled out, small amounts at a time.

The transition to cleaner emissions is a step that must be taken eventually. To not do so would be irresponsible. We can't use ignorance as an excuse any more. Global warming may just be hocus pocus. The effects pollution has on the environment and people is not.

Should the transition to cleaner emissions be done in a way that puts people out of work? No of course not. The regulating agencies should work with the industries and assist them in making this switch. The burden shouldn't fall squarely on the businesses. If this issue does effect us all, which I believe it does, we should all play a part in correcting the issue.

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As far as promoting freedom? Pointing fingers is futile, as both sides of the coin are guilty of betraying American ideals. Blaming everything on the liberals is too simplistic.

The Republicans control the executive and the legislative branches (and the balance is even shifting in the judicial). They have had the time and the power to cut back on government spending, reduce the strength of the federal government and devise a more conservative foreign policy among other things. But have they? No, they have done just the opposite. They've sold America out. They had their turn at bat and they've struck out. Why should I have faith in them? Why do you?
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How about following up on your threads digger?
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Yes I believe in compromise, But that has been the problem is that we have compromised to much as far as the industries are concerened which have eliminated jobs.

Lthe liberals believe in compromise through incremental distruction.


My thought of the day: (Hope this answers your Republican democrat issue)


We have a 2 part republican party in Maine and many other parts of the United States. The Majority of the republicans in Maine belong to the RINO republican party and control the type of republicans who can gain access. These people are Socialist liberals who have invaded the party through Caucuses.

Olympia Snow and her organization belongs to the left wing and has the voting list for every community in the state. It is organized with all license holders, and registrations and organizations (such as NRA). You do not have access to this information if you are not a Snowe approved republican.

They are famous for character assination of conservative republicans and pi*s them of to un-enroll from the republican party.

Now the Liberals and the environmentalist own the State political process and If you are not a republican or democrat you are neutered and have no voice in who is going to be represented at the poles.

Also under stand that the democrat party was taken over in the 60's and under full control in the 70's by the socialist liberals.

The liberal design is to bring America to Socialist control. The democrats do not like to be called liberal because it is a damaged name for socialism ideals. Now they want to be called Progressives, which is a direct relationship to Karl Marx's Progressive Society.

This is not a conspiracy Theory. They control school education, College education, and most of the news media, and have done a very good job in their attacks on our American Freedom.

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Are the regulations too harsh, or are they just being implemented too quickly?

You keep copying and pasting the same stuff. You've got the same spiel on like 3 different threads now. It doesn't address my questions. It is a generic canned response.

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