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Vizzini
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Joined: 08 Jan 2007
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This is pretty much all I've said, and you know perfectly well it is scientific fact.
Massive doses of hormones, hormone mimicking pollutants, hormones in drinking water etc. can effect behavior associated with hormone levels (DUH) and sexuality/physical attraction etc. is associated with hormone levels.
To dismiss the possibility that these kinds of things can potentially effect sexuality is just goofy. If someone does that it most likely indicates they are a person with an agenda or vested interest in the "gay is normal, gay is healthy, gays are born gay" song and dance.
These days you know perfectly well, the gay community would demonize any researcher who went down this path. Just like they demonized any psychologist who dared raise the possibility of a mental health component. The gay community has effectively shutdown any serious research in this area, because they cannot tolerate someone even suggesting that these perfectly reasonable possibilities are worth looking into. It's quite obvious that hormones (especially unusual exposure to hormones in early developmental stages) may influence sexual preference.
"The homosexuals had lower creatinine and 17-ketogenic steroid levels, lower androsterone-etiocholanolone ration, and higher 11-keto-etiocholanolone. They also had lower triglycerides, phospholipids, cholesterol, and beta-lopoproteins. "(Evans, R. (1972) Physical and biochemical characteristics of homosexual men. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 39: pp. 140)."
"Women exposed prenatally via their pregnant mothers to diethylstilbestrol (DES, a synthetic nonsteroidal estrogen with masculinizing effects in female mammals) received higher ratings of homosexual behavior (Ehrhardt et al., 1985) and showed an increased incidence of left-hand preference (Geschwind & Galaburda, 1985b) compared to female controls. Similarly, women with congenital adrenal hyperplasmia (CAH, an inherited condition which involves an excessive secretion of andrenal androgens) received higher ratings of homosexual behavior (Money et al., 1984; Money, 1987) and showed an increased incidence of left-hand preference (Nass et al., 1987) compared to female controls."
I believe it's very important for Mothers to know that exposing thier unborn and newly born babies to certain hormones etc. is associated with an increased liklihood of homosexuality. The gay community has been irresponsible and selfish in their attempt to stifle further research of this kind. _________________ Love, love, love.
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tumbleweed
Official Mainah

Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 1863
Location: Aroostook County

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Vizzini
"The rest of your post is a collection of false premises, strawmen, misrepresentations of my position etc."
That's pretty rich coming from you and the suggestions you are making.
You claim I'm playing dumb, yet you don't provide anything to prove your point.I have no idea what you are even talking about in reference to what information is being surpressed. I'll ask again then. What information? Enlighten me.
There are enough gay people who never touched soy milk to cast doubt on your claims.IMO. All I gather from your suggestions is if you drink soy milk your kid might turn out to be gay. Or if you get to much of a certain hormone, your kid might be gay.This is a theory and not very convincing to me. I want to know how likely or probable it is that these chemicals are the definite cause of someone being a gay person.
You are looking for evidence so you can hit a switch to keep people from being gay so you won't have to deal with them. I've read enough of your posts on this topic to realize you are homophobic, and that is what you base your perspective on.
I don't dwell much on gay issues and I don't care what makes them tick. They are what they are, and you can eliminate all the hormones you want and there will still be gay people, and I'm sure a lot more than you care to see. If they start to reproduce, with 2 gay people of the same sex making a baby, and it is gay too, I will start to worry.
Give me some data on the percentage of people in the population today who are gay, compared to the number of them when these hormones started showing up in the levels you say can make someone gay, and I'll buy some of your snake oil.
Oh, and what about bi-sexual people. Do they get that way from drinking slighly less amounts of soy milk or getting a lower dose of these hormones? _________________ "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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