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sfa
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so much for that unimpeachable source that they claimed they had behind the documents.

Post Tue 21 Sep, 2004 8:49 am 
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I wonder if this Lucy is like the "real killer" of the OJ case?
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Post Wed 22 Sep, 2004 8:58 am 
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I wonder if this Lucy is like the "real killer" of the OJ case?


Oh come on.. don't start with that. You know OJ will find the real killer one of these days.
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I wonder if this Lucy is like the "real killer" of the OJ case?


Oh come on.. don't start with that. You know OJ will find the real killer one of these days.


OJ is still working on the case to this day spending most of his time investigating leads. Most of the clues seem to give him reason to believe that the killer or killers are advid golfers. Shocked
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Good Gawd! I didn't realize they actually had CBS people lined up as moderators for the debates! I also can't believe that the Bush people originally ok'd this.

They should have the master of the "No Spin Zone" handel the moderation. Razz


That would be interesting.
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Wink

He recently interviewd President Bush, and will be airing it on Mon, Tues, and Wed of next week.

Now if he could only get Kerry on. Twisted Evil

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Now if he could only get Kerry on. Twisted Evil


Dream on, Tfin!

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I know....... Laughing
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NEW YORK (AP) - Bill O'Reilly has revealed an unlikely factor in his career: Mike Wallace. The host of Fox News'"The O'Reilly Factor" says on this Sunday's "60 Minutes" that Wallace made a strong impression on him when he was growing up.

"You know, you're responsible for this O'Reilly deal," he told Wallace in an interview taped on Sept. 13 for the CBS news program.

O'Reilly explains that he was inspired by Wallace's tough questioning on "Night Beat" and "The Mike Wallace Interviews" in the late 1950s. He claims, "If you don't like me, you go to Wallace."

A surprised Wallace asks O'Reilly if he is serious. "No spin," replies O'Reilly, echoing his program's No Spin Zone. "I mean, I'm serious about everything."


O'Reilly, long a favorite of conservatives, surprised Wallace with some of his views on political issues.

He said he is pro-gun control, against the death penalty, for civil unions and for gay adoption (as a last resort instead of state custody). And O'Reilly said he's not necessarily voting for President Bush this November.

"I've known (Democratic presidential nominee John) Kerry for 25 years. He's a patriot. I'm listening to what he has to say," he tells Wallace.




Well, my opinion of O'Reilly just went down. Is he that moronic?
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Hmmmm.......Considering how contradictory that sounds to anything I've heard O'Reilly say about such matters, I wonder if some of these political/social views were taken out of contex, or reworded?

After all, isn't the AP a fairly liberal entity? I'll have to do some research to see what I can come up with concerning O'Reilly and his views.

Good find though.

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Well, I found this from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia site, so take it for what its worth.

Sounds like some of his views were taken out of context, or at least not fully explained, while others may have some validity.



Political opinion

O'Reilly disagrees vehemently with the common belief that he is a conservative, preferring to call himself a traditionalist and a populist. In his book The O'Reilly Factor, he describes his political affiliation this way: "You might be wondering if whether I'm conservative, liberal, libertarian, or exactly what... See, I don't want to fit any of those labels, because I believe that the truth doesn't have labels. When I see corruption, I try to expose it. When I see exploitation, I try to fight it. That's my political position."

However, O'Reilly has acknowledged that from 1994 until December 2000, he was registered to vote as a Republican. He changed his voter registration from Republican to independent when the Washington Post was about to expose his party affiliation. Now a registered independent, O'Reilly has said his previously affiliation was the result of a clerical mistake which has since been corrected. "I've always been an independent," he says. "I always split my ticket. I vote for the person I think is best."

Although O'Reilly emphasizes that he is an independent thinker, this claim is intensely disputed. Critics attest that O'Reilly has close ties to the Republican Party and other conservative groups. Arguments include O'Reilly's voter registration, which was changed from Republican to independent (or unaffiliated) when reported by the Washington Post in 2000. Also mentioned was O'Reilly's keynote speech at David Horowitz's conservative "Restoration Weekend" event, taking place at the Republican convention in Philadelphia. However, O'Reilly claims that some of these appearances were inadvertant on his part, such as when U.S. Rep. Chris Shays asked him to speak at a charity benefit in Greenwich, Connecticut without telling him that it was for a Republican-backed cause. Nevertheless, O'Reilly's opinions contain a mix of traditionally conservative and liberal positions.

Notably, O'Reilly's position on illegal immigration does not follow a traditional conservative standpoint. Rather, it is based on protecting national security.

A viewer once wrote to give O'Reilly a rough statistical analysis of his political viewpoints and found O'Reilly to take more conservative viewpoints roughly 60% of the time, more liberal viewpoints 30% of the time, and completely moderate viewpoints 10% of the time.


Traditionally conservative views

Supports cutting taxes across the board and eliminating the inheritance tax
Supports harsher prosecution for hard drug dealers
Supports strict enforcement of immigration law by placing the National Guard on the US-Mexico border
Supports 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq
Opposes partial-birth abortion
Opposes gay marriage if enacted by judges, though says it personally doesn't bother him


Traditionally liberal views

Supports raising automobile fuel efficiency standards due to his belief in global warming
Supports a large and well-funded Environmental Protection Agency
Supports campaign finance reform
Supports de-criminalizing marijuana and the use of medical marijuana if prescribed by a physician
Supports gay adoption
Supports civil unions
Supports gay marriage if voted for by citizens
Supports gun control while believing in validity of the 2nd Amendment
Opposes the death penalty
Opposes additional regulation of pornography
Opposes government regulation of private sexual acts between consenting adults
Opposes the criminalization of most forms of abortion (partial-birth abortion being the exception), though personally finds the practice offensive



If these are correct, I certainly don't agree with all his views, but still enough to keep listening.

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